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  1. #161 Re: TIC (This is China) 
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    Quote Originally Posted by Damo
    Hearing "we will blow the Phillipines off the map" by charming 16 year olds was just another nail in the coffin for me living in China.
    It's also this double-edged arrogance/insecurity that comes with Chinese nationalism. Constantly comparing themselves to other countries, what other countries do or what they think they do. Are we better? You must love China, you must love the party blah blah. That's OK, if you must. But it's the hate, you have to hate on X to be a patriot, and teach children to hate. X is japan now. Will X be your or my country next?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigdamo View Post
    Me wonders if you know this boy because i know many like him/her.That crap with the Phillipines a few months ago also brought out the best in the Chinese.

    Hearing "we will blow the Phillipines off the map" by charming 16 year olds was just another nail in the coffin for me living in China.
    I have heard the same "we will blow XXXX off the map" or "we will kick their ass in XXXX" coming from 16 year olds in USA, Mexico, Australia, UK, Korea, Germany, Italy, and Spain. You kind of have to be more grown up than they are to keep one's sanity. I have as many or maybe more bad China days than most anyone, but I have not found any country that can throw rocks in this glass house we call the planet earth.
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    Another commonly misconceived prejudice (based on lack of genuine experience) is ...

    "Chinese women are weak little waifs who will do whatever the man wants."

    Hmmm ... ok ... obviously promulgated by someone who has never actually had a Chinese girlfriend/wife. Even still, luv em to bits!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChinaV View Post
    I've had some healthy debates with locals about "Japanes aggression" and usually share some personal history. First, telling them my grandfathers submarine sunk 27,983 tons of Japanese shipping during WWII, and then about the 3 family members we lost in the Pacific, one during the attack on Pearl Harbor. Followed by enlightening them to the fact that the USA dropped 2 nukes on Japan in 1945 and ended WWII. Had my family and country not made these sacrifices and decisions, China would still be Japans bitch. Then I ask them if they have ever heard of the concept that the USA and China were allies against Japan and get nothing but blank stares. I've told them there's no reason to harbour resentment, as that was the past and things have changed. Enjoy the Japanese of today with their lovely cars, electronics, and porn.

    Every country needs its boogeymen to rally up the masses. America has gone from the USSR to Al Qaida. China likes to stir up emotions with patriotic calls agains Japan.

    We should be happy the little shit doesn't like sushi, as the world doesn't have enough fish left for 1.6 billion people to start consuming it like the Japanese.

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    And how many American civilians died compared to Chinese at the hands of the Japanese during WWII? The Chinese are plenty aware of America's massive involvement in helping to defeat Japan. Ever heard of the recent Chinese blockbusters "The Flowers of War" and "Back to 1942"? Both have plots that involve Americans saving Chinese from the Japanese. On the other hand when was the last time you watched a Hollywood movie that portrayed China and the US as allies fighting against Japan? In fact when was the last time you saw ANY positive potrayal of China or the Chinese in a Hollywood movie?

    Don't get me wrong, I'm also disgusted at the level of mindless hate that China as an entire nation is displaying towards Japan right now. But I'm perplexed by your need to mention the US in your post. Is it hard to imagine that Americans would find it easier to forgive Japan than the Chinese?
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    Quote Originally Posted by PeteZ View Post
    And how many American civilians died compared to Chinese at the hands of the Japanese during WWII?
    Not even a fraction of a percent. The point is that Japanese aggression directly impacted people in my family, but we got over it, and don't harbour ill will towards Japan.

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    In fact when was the last time you saw ANY positive portrayal of China or the Chinese in a Hollywood movie?
    I thought Kung Fu Panda was pretty good.

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteZ View Post
    But I'm perplexed by your need to mention the US in your post. Is it hard to imagine that Americans would find it easier to forgive Japan than the Chinese?
    I mention the US because I'm American and we were attacked by Japan. ZMC mentioned he's from the UK, which was attacked by Germany, yet he doesn't hate Germans. Cultures that aren't rooted in "face" tend to be much better at forgiveness than those that are. I'm only sharing my personal experience of being egged on in conversations with locals when they ask where I stand on the Japan issue. So to answer your question, no, it's not hard to imagine, but it is frustrating watching young people being poisoned with questionable propaganda.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChinaV View Post
    but it is frustrating watching young people being poisoned with questionable propaganda.
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    I agree and it's frustrating and tiresome watching all of those Jap-killing TV dramas which are now starting to romanticise that era.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lao Jia Hou View Post
    Another commonly misconceived prejudice (based on lack of genuine experience) is ...

    "Chinese women are weak little waifs who will do whatever the man wants."

    Hmmm ... ok ... obviously promulgated by someone who has never actually had a Chinese girlfriend/wife. Even still, luv em to bits!
    Truer words were never spoken!
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    Mate. After 20 years you should know. .Remembe Red wine with Coke? A driving license in this county means you can drive? And honestly.. A pink pussy Lambo? No probs. The best thing you can do with these cars......
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonsims View Post
    Remember red wine with Coke?
    Only Cherry Coke communicates a degree of sophistication. White wine must be mixed with Sprite, definitely NOT Fresca.

    Well, this is what I have been told.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lao Jia Hou View Post
    Only Cherry Coke communicates a degree of sophistication. White wine must be mixed with Sprite, definitely NOT Fresca.

    Well, this is what I have been told.
    HA! So True!
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