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    Here you go - Haynes manual for MZ ETZ's: http://depositfiles.com/files/e7snassk4 (.pdf, ~ 42 megs)
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    Dear Zorge,

    To keep things "on topic" in a China motorbike forum, I searched the DDR site for "China" thinking there might have been some fellow traveller fraternal frolick back in the (more orthodox) day. You know, some MZ and Changjiang fans riding in solidarity to the commune or party central or something. Alas, nothing.

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    MZ actually does have quite some interesting culture starting from socialist propaganda how it is a responsibility of a citizen to maintain people's 'power machine bikes' in as good condition as possible for as long as possible (interestingly enough that is very good propaganda and many could learn a lot of that in the times of use once toss away consumerism).

    (I curse my English skills because I can't at all translate the words and spirit of the sentences correctly.)

    Many don't know but they did the best motorcycles in socialist Germany in '60 by the way, and Japanese were the copycats once again.

    http://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/stea...=9781844259755

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01byhrg


    There is one another very good book of MZ written by a worker at Zopau factory, but I can't find it now in English version. Finnish translation is online though. One day I will find it and make a signature here to this forum of words of wisdom on it.


    (Thank you again Zorge of the repair manual. That PDF version is much more pleasant to use than JPGs.)


    Edit: Here is a better introduction to Stealing Speed.


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    Fifty years ago, two-stroke grand prix machines began to outperform their four-stroke rivals thanks mostly to the use of expansion chambers. The technology was originally used in German World War II rockets, and then incorporated into motorcycle engines by MZ in East Germany following the war."Read more: http://www.sportrider.com/gear/146_1...#ixzz2JqFsVOcd




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    So, who was the hi-tec!

    MZ Uber Alles
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    Quote Originally Posted by moilami View Post
    Fifty years ago, two-stroke grand prix machines began to outperform their four-stroke rivals thanks mostly to the use of expansion chambers. The technology was originally used in German World War II rockets, and then incorporated into motorcycle engines by MZ in East Germany following the war."Read more:
    Well known fact - Kaaden's exhaust.
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    While we all are STILL waiting, ETZ 250 parts catalog - http://www.ost2rad-ersatzteilkatalog...og-etz250tafel
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zorge View Post
    No, ministry of interior was MdI (Ministerium des Innern).

    I understood that the first owner was a head of ministry of interior's vocational school of Stasi.

    Any idea were there ministry of interior's vocational school for Stasi?
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    Source - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volkspolizei

    From 1962, the DVP had its own school in Berlin-Biesdorf which trained around 3,500 officers up to 1989. There were several other schools. The Kasernierten Einheiten (barracks units) had their own training facilities. Officers were initially trained in the army ground forces, from 1963 at the Officers' school and from 1971 to the officers' school in Dresden-Wilder Mann.

    • VP-Schule "Ernst Thälmann", Neustrelitz (since 1984 central service similar school)
    • Schule für Abschnittsbevollmächtigte (school for the section represented), Wolfen
    • Transportpolizei-Schule (Transport Police School), Halle (Saale)
    • Verkehrspolizei-Schule "Hans Beimler" (Traffic Police School), Magdeburg
    • Schule des Nachrichtenwesens (School of Intelligence), Dommitzsch
    • Spezialschule des MdI für Diensthundewesen — Special School for service dogs, Pretzsch (Elbe)
    • Spezialschule des MdI für medizinische Dienste (im Bezirk Magdeburg ) - Special School of medical services (in the district of Magdeburg)
    • Fachschule des MdI "Heinrich Rau" - College of MdI "Heinrich Rau", Radebeul
    • Fachschule des MdI, „ Wilhelm Pieck “ - College of the MdI, "Wilhelm Pieck", Aschersleben
    • Hochschule der VP — University of the VP, Berlin-Biesdorf (Cecilienstraße)
    • Offiziershochschule Bereitschaften "Artur Becker", Dresden (school readiness officer, "Artur Becker", Dresden (now the headquarters of the State Criminal Office Saxony)
    • Humboldt-Universität zu Berlin /Sektion Kriminalistik — Humboldt University Berlin / Criminalistics Section

    The Volkspolizei had approximately 80,000 full-time police officers and 177,500 volunteers.
    With the accession of the GDR to the Federal Republic on 3 October 1990, authority over the police went to the newly created federal jurisdiction. About 40 percent of the DVP employees had to leave the service.
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    Ok there was no school listed for Stasi. In the wikipedia article of Stasi they did not tell had Stasi school or not.

    MdI had two schools listed.

    Maybe school of Stasi is just not listed. Most certainly there had to be a school for Stasi where some recruits were trained.

    Ministerium für Staatssicherheit, MfS, Ministry for State Security, had to had a school.
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