Navigating in chinese traffic?

[Jonsims]

I hear what you say about the accidents.. I also hear what you say about the licenses and yes.. You're not wrong there.. The thing is the locals get away with it because.. they are locals.. They go to another area and they will get hammered.. This is the way it is here.
As you know.. It doesn't matter how good or experienced a rider you are. TIC.. It comes at you from all directions and it doesn't matter how careful you are here. You can't be that careful.
So there you are lying on the ground with a broken leg (if you're lucky) and some old biddy on her ebike is munched up. You have no insurance and no license.. they WILL throw the book at you, if for no other reason than to make an example of you.
So. I really do suggest you look at ways of getting a tourist driving license and doing it properly even if it costs you a bit more and you have to spend a bit of time. It's just not worth cutting corners... pardon the pun.
The police have chased us in the past and when they caught one of my friends they beat him up.
It is a crime to leave the scene of an accident.
Yes.. This is China.. But China is Changing .. very quickly..
By the way.. It's worth it.. Riding bikes here in China is one of the most amazing things you can do on a bike.. There is just SO MUCH happening one way or another.

Ok, man but in his case what can we say to him then?

Forget about riding Yunnan cause u won't have license? What percentage of local riders u see everyday u think have proper license insurance and plates? I'd say less than 10% riders of gas powered 2 wheelers here are legit. Now that's in SH, how about Yunnan?

Still, I regret what I said regarding accidents.

Please discard my previous advice regarding fleeing an accident scene as it is immoral, not even mentioning how it may end up.

Any local would flee, as any minor hit would have no consequence whatsoever (unless u're in the middle of a mob yea), now what u do in case of a major hit is up to u.

Just don't have any major hit in the 1st place.

Now regarding police, a policeman can lose his job and be sued should he follow u and cause u to crash, reason why they don't follow, as of today.

How do u explain 90% locals still driving non registered vehicles? They never encountered a cop these last years when police started to enforce rules more severely? I have all papers but still flee from cops when I see they're just too focused on me.

I'm on the wrong lane, wrong way and a cop starts whistling at me pointing fingers and all, I don't stop anymore, did it once, won't do it again. Never been followed.

I only stop if I'm 100% sure there's ZERO chance for him to bill me.

Now he's not gonna have a license, so what do u recon he should do should a cop point his finger at him in the middle of Yunnan? 18 years later China is still China and it's ok to do things u wouldn't do in homeland cause TIC, not homeland.

[nutter]

Thanks alot for everyone who gave effort to answer my question. I believe i have got really good advice from insiders. Having read posts i have idea what to consider in my future plans. Once again thanks fellas!

[SabineHartmann]

Since I never been in China at all , im not sure what to expect.

China is not like "every" country. It looks like a normal one, it is not. You want to ride in Asia, no problem. You want to ride in China, prepare yourself in the proper way people adviced in these posts.
If you want to ride here, go legal, if you think "I just do it" prepare for the worst.

[Jonsims]

Well said Sabine!!!

China is not like "every" country. It looks like a normal one, it is not. You want to ride in Asia, no problem. You want to ride in China, prepare yourself in the proper way people adviced in these posts.
If you want to ride here, go legal, if you think "I just do it" prepare for the worst.