Barnone,I have seen those bikes online and couldn't find a reseller for them.My oldest son has finally started getting his life in order.He finally got his driver license.So now I am considering helping him get a beginner bike.Either of those will work.I hope they continue to produce the hard tail version.If I find one close and cheap enough,I may consider chopping one to fit a 650 single or one of my GS500 engines.