It is possible that the Chinese kid heard, for example, for Second Sino-Japanese War and the terrifying sacrifices of his people.
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There was a war? Thanks for the heads-up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zorge
Actually, Sino-Japanse wars - plural.
There is no need to be sarcastic.
There was a need to be sarcastic. My points were completely lost on you, it seems.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zorge
My point was that loving China to some Chinese nationalists means:
a. You must hate Japan.
b. You can't even eat Japanese food, even though none of the ingredients in it are from Japan.
I dislike Nazis from WW2. Does it mean that I hate on German and Austrian people now? NO!
Do I refuse to drink some of the best beer in the world? F**k NO!
I've had some healthy debates with locals about "Japanes aggression" and usually share some personal history. First, telling them my grandfathers submarine sunk 27,983 tons of Japanese shipping during WWII, and then about the 3 family members we lost in the Pacific, one during the attack on Pearl Harbor. Followed by enlightening them to the fact that the USA dropped 2 nukes on Japan in 1945 and ended WWII. Had my family and country not made these sacrifices and decisions, China would still be Japans bitch. Then I ask them if they have ever heard of the concept that the USA and China were allies against Japan and get nothing but blank stares. I've told them there's no reason to harbour resentment, as that was the past and things have changed. Enjoy the Japanese of today with their lovely cars, electronics, and porn.
Every country needs its boogeymen to rally up the masses. America has gone from the USSR to Al Qaida. China likes to stir up emotions with patriotic calls agains Japan.
We should be happy the little shit doesn't like sushi, as the world doesn't have enough fish left for 1.6 billion people to start consuming it like the Japanese.
Cheers!
ChinaV
I felt that sarcasm was directed on my mentioning of the bloody wars with disproportionately large number of civilian casualties. But if it refers to the story of sushi, then I agree with your attitude.
About the beer: Czech beers are better.
Kozel? Hit me!
Staropramen? Hit me twice!
Gambrinus? Hit me all day long! :goodtime:
You have to remember that the kid in this story is only 14. He is actually likeable and very intelligent. What's scary is how he is being manipulated by adults.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zorge
Oh, by the way I prefer Belgian beer to Czech and German beer. But it's a close-run thing. :goodtime:
Me wonders if you know this boy because i know many like him/her.That crap with the Phillipines a few months ago also brought out the best in the Chinese.
Hearing "we will blow the Phillipines off the map" by charming 16 year olds was just another nail in the coffin for me living in China.
It's also this double-edged arrogance/insecurity that comes with Chinese nationalism. Constantly comparing themselves to other countries, what other countries do or what they think they do. Are we better? You must love China, you must love the party blah blah. That's OK, if you must. But it's the hate, you have to hate on X to be a patriot, and teach children to hate. X is japan now. Will X be your or my country next?Quote:
Originally Posted by Damo
I have heard the same "we will blow XXXX off the map" or "we will kick their ass in XXXX" coming from 16 year olds in USA, Mexico, Australia, UK, Korea, Germany, Italy, and Spain. You kind of have to be more grown up than they are to keep one's sanity. I have as many or maybe more bad China days than most anyone, but I have not found any country that can throw rocks in this glass house we call the planet earth.
Another commonly misconceived prejudice (based on lack of genuine experience) is ...
"Chinese women are weak little waifs who will do whatever the man wants."
Hmmm ... ok ... obviously promulgated by someone who has never actually had a Chinese girlfriend/wife. Even still, luv em to bits!
And how many American civilians died compared to Chinese at the hands of the Japanese during WWII? The Chinese are plenty aware of America's massive involvement in helping to defeat Japan. Ever heard of the recent Chinese blockbusters "The Flowers of War" and "Back to 1942"? Both have plots that involve Americans saving Chinese from the Japanese. On the other hand when was the last time you watched a Hollywood movie that portrayed China and the US as allies fighting against Japan? In fact when was the last time you saw ANY positive potrayal of China or the Chinese in a Hollywood movie?
Don't get me wrong, I'm also disgusted at the level of mindless hate that China as an entire nation is displaying towards Japan right now. But I'm perplexed by your need to mention the US in your post. Is it hard to imagine that Americans would find it easier to forgive Japan than the Chinese?
Not even a fraction of a percent. The point is that Japanese aggression directly impacted people in my family, but we got over it, and don't harbour ill will towards Japan.
I thought Kung Fu Panda was pretty good.
I mention the US because I'm American and we were attacked by Japan. ZMC mentioned he's from the UK, which was attacked by Germany, yet he doesn't hate Germans. Cultures that aren't rooted in "face" tend to be much better at forgiveness than those that are. I'm only sharing my personal experience of being egged on in conversations with locals when they ask where I stand on the Japan issue. So to answer your question, no, it's not hard to imagine, but it is frustrating watching young people being poisoned with questionable propaganda.
Cheers!
ChinaV
Mate. After 20 years you should know. .Remembe Red wine with Coke? A driving license in this county means you can drive? And honestly.. A pink pussy Lambo? No probs. The best thing you can do with these cars......
Not really TIC, but close ... more like TINK
North Korea has developed an online video game that allows you to drive a car through Pyongyang.
http://www.koryogroup.com/Pyongyang_racer/racer.html (takes a while to load)
Cute.
A strange twist ...
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...ing-works.html
OMG ... this is beyond weird ...
http://www.whatsonjinan.com/news-456...s-hug-fee.html
Isn't there a word for "paying for affection?" .... oh yeah, prostitution!
And on the other end of the spectrum http://www.whatsonjinan.com/news-466...ce-of-s-t.html
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Just around the corner of my house ..dude tried to pass a traffic jam by running the sidewalk not too slow .... forgot there are concrete poles every now and then.
- Concrete pole: 1
- Car: 0
- Driver license points: last day of the year, he is still lucky :icon10:
Chinese society has all kinds of strange behaviors, like that facekini a full face swimmers cap, too protect them from the UV, oddly uncomfortable looking and they seem to think that yellow and orange are the best colors they seem to think sharks are afraid of the colors? In realty the color are of the red family and can actually attract sharks, everything they eat is red, they in fact frenzy for the color and yellow and orange are close on the spectrum.
1st day in school
these kids are quadruplets, their hair cuts are for the sake of easy identification.
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So I'm sure everyone has heard that Beijing is killing people with air pollution that is “beyond index” (886 micrograms per cubic meter). The World Health Organization considers a safe daily level to be 25 micrograms per cubic meter.
Over the last several weeks, every news story I've read about air pollution keeps saying "Hourly air quality updates are now available online for more than 70 cities". I guess my google abilities are lacking, as I am unable to find this data. Does anybody have links to where one can find Shenzhen, Guangzhou, and/or Dongguan?
Cheers!
ChinaV