Quote Originally Posted by ZMC888 View Post
Actually is there are problem? Really it's not jealousy? Shoot down ebikes because they don't pay the same taxes, licensing and insurance as you?
nope its not jealousy, all the legal expenses ie plates, insurance etc etc for a new bike last summer (for the trip) was around 7-800rmb (Anhui, Huainan plates)
as to 'is there a problem'
There really is a problem, as they will come up to a red light and ignore it if there is no one standing there actually stopping them.
having cars break the rules is bad, but at least a car is large enough to be easily seen when they run a red, a ebike with its lights off to save electricity during night time is not the same thing. (I dont have a car here so dont think for 1 moment I am at all biased in this respect).
During rush hour the amount of times I have been forced to do emergency stops and swerving due to ebikes just driving out is unreal.

Also they freely drive the wrong way down roads and bike lanes.

So what I am really getting at is this, There are more than enough dangers on the road with cars, trucks and people walking out/ jumping barriers, road quality, items on the roads and all the like without having a poor mans motorbike (aka ebike) doing stupid things because they only had to walk into a ship, pay some money and drive out without any practical experience or instruction what so ever.

In the UK if you drive an ebike and it goes faster than 10 or 12mph you need a motorbike license.

While in China some people dont sit their tests or anything like that, at least if it was there, the more law abiding citizens wouldnt break the law (especially if there were penalties equal to driving a motorbike or car without a license), So this would take a vast majority of zero trained dangers off the road.


You are right when you say they couldn't do things like they could in the west, this is not for the reason you stated but more because basic road safety (as we would call it common seance, but thats only because its been drilled into us from such a young age) is lacking in many people here.

Education shouldnt start in school, I remember my mum clearly telling me and showing me what is dangerous and what is safe. So while the schools could help, parents are where it should of started, but it clearly never did, perhaps because the older generation never had a problem with cars. motorbikes or ebikes. Massive roads and only a few bikes on them. Then China changed very rapidly and grandparents, parents and children havent been educated on how to stay alive and stay safe in the new China.

Education VIA the TV to get the message across isnt the answer, having practical driving test is the only way to be sure people have the foundations for safe driving, and having fines behind that is the only way to make sure they continue to obey the rules.

It may seem stupid and just adding red tape to an already red tape bound country, but thats the price for advancing at such a quick rate. A person is clever but people are stupid.