@Rich

Right now if I had to walk down to hua qiang bei into the grey markets (or go to the sincere market in Mong Kok East) I'd get an HTC Desire Z, best bang for buck and it has the hardware flip out keyboard, you can pick one up for under 3k right now (probably a "99% new" one similar to how Tom got is last phone), since Tom lost his new phone, I'll probably be bying one of them and I'll sell him my rooted 2.2 Milestone cheap ;)

P.S is it just me or does Mong Kok sound like a horrid STD.. Girl) Wanna come back to my place? Guy) Sorry, I've got Mong Kok...