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#11 Re: JH600 stalling
12-27-2011, 03:06 AM
I agree MJH, and your last several posts on this topic have been spot on, but... you'd need to have the entire company attend an MBA for them to appreciate the relevance of any of it, and that is where the whole concept falls apart. It ain't likely to happen.
All great conjecture in theory, but none of it is likely to happen any time soon. Basically what you describe is a foreign concept, lost on the local majority what with their kow-tow, gumbei and cultural overtones. For the local majority Jialing have a mammoth task to overcome which is a prejudice for most things that are locally produced (and for very good reason based on my decade of experience in China). Not a small undertaking, to convince a highly suspicious market that the Jialing brand is associated with highly desirable and quality attributes... an undertaking that wouldn't seem to be in Jialings' best interest from THEIR perspective being a state owned/financed enterprise (you will need to put on cultural glasses to get the whole view from their side). Hypothesis all you want, isn't likely to make it happen. Rather than pasting a wish list and a 'how to win, influence and retain customers' on this website, you'd likely get slightly better results from finding out who is the GM/CEO/Technical slash Development managers and craft a well worded culturally appropriate letter and sending it to those concerned at Jialing. After all it may very well be, that the people that matter and need to be influenced are completely unaware of the ongoing JH600 stalling saga. Besides which there is slight to little or no chance of them reading anything here.
This is the very reason I took the time, and visited CFMoto about my Jetmax concerns though I didn't get to meet the right people or persons at CFMoto, I now know where the company is located and have some insight into the operation and company culture. I also was able to walk away from that visit with a list of contacts, as well as some part replacements, and more.
As an aside, though still on topic... there is a very clever motorcycle mechanic based down here (Zhenhai) who has diagnosed little things on my and a friends Jetmax - e.g. failed sensor notifications (ECU) attributed to faulty sensor themselves or in one case shorted wiring. He has the required skills, knowledge and well rounded logic that appears lost on many other so called mechanics in China I have used and seen in operation in the past. If one of you SH based lot want I could attempt to check if your folks stalling JH600's is something he might consider working on to try and understand what is the route cause. Quick question though, when you lot with these stalling JH600's have been into authorised repair centres (and I use the term loosely - we are in China after all), have they been plugging in a ECU diagnostic device into the ECU?
I cannot help but recall a local Chinese friend (an avid photographer and a Chinese university professor) who has (and has been trying to sell) a JH600 first edition model, that he had some problems with, including a complete front end rebuild under warranty. When I mentioned to him that I was considering a JH600 purchase 1-2 years ago, he asked why, how much, what for... when I told him the price at the time, which was around CNY35000, he laughed in a very Chinese way and said the JH600 wasn't worth anything more than CNY7000 and that I should not buy one. I listened carefully and weighed up the bias likely in his advice (however he had a JH600 and I hadn't) and I have learnt that sometimes the locals are right (not often, not always - but sometimes). The majority of local Chinese think that anything foreign has got to be ten times better than anything made locally, and I tend to agree. It MAY NOT always be the case, but it would certainly be so in the majority. Given that there is an increasing awakening, increasing wealth, increasing sense of self importance, increasing demand, increasing GDP and increasing squeezing of profit margins, increasing numbers of factories closing... shortcuts, cost cutting - call it what you will... there's an inevitable consequence of buying/doing business in China. Look beneath the wrapping, for nothing is at seems in PRC. To get rich is glorious! (he who reaches his first bucket of gold has achieved success no matter how one got it).
Just my ten cents worth... anyway for some light comic festive relief... please enjoy <- click for light hearted entertainmentLast edited by bikerdoc; 12-27-2011 at 09:15 AM.
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