New CFMoto 650NK blog x2

[ZMC888]

There are a handful of riders who are and have waited for what could be best described as extraordinarily long periods of time for the outcome of possible warranty claims, let alone being supplied with replacement parts or accessories.

Understood, but that's unacceptable too. So it doesn't placate me to know other people have to deal with this shite as well, nobody should have to deal with this.

So can you rightly attribute 100% blame the manufacturer?

When you allow someone to use your logo and make money for themselves and yourselves you then have a duty to train the staff, including the clerical staff, mechanics and so on.

Or please allow your parts to be sold online elsewhere so that I can just buy them and have them sent in 48 hours if need be. T-Mall? Tabao? Not seen much on there at all.

I've also outlined some of the reasons as to why possibly your parts you have been waiting for might not have materialised in an arbitrary time frame that you determined was acceptable.

Arbitrary?
I often order mountain bike parts, motorcycle parts and clothing online. Fact is most 'clued-in' companies CAN and DO fulfill international orders to China within three weeks. My last order from BTO sports was ordered on the 20th September and arrived on the 6th October. In fact it took 2-3 days before they even packed and sent it, and spent ages going through various Californian postal hubs. It was delivered to my door less than 72 hours after being in China.

So you are a new company in the market trying to gain market share, it might be advisable to get these logistics sorted.

A week shows you actually give a shit about your customers.

As for your comment about the technical abilities of staff and the facilities, look around, there are many different brands of motorcycle shop that you could broadly apply your statement too

Agreed, they are all terrible. In fact around here good mechanics work on cars, in factories or have their own shop. None work for peanuts for a boss at these dealerships. Any mechanic with a Honda, CFMOTO, Yamaha or Suzuki overalls can keep his mitts off my bike. One of the local 'own shop' mechanics just spent 40,000 RMB on ECU diagnostic equipment and SATA tools. Imagine a dealership doing that? Not likely!

[zhu]

You can try the 'nice' method. Gets you nowhere, then you're a pushover. They do nothing.
Then you try the 'angry' method. Then they hate you and delay/cancel the order out of spite.
Then you try the 'please please please' method. Now that works about 25% of the time, only if you are willing to pay and the boss is receptive.

might be time for the "kidnap his children method"

[Serpentza]

Well you guys have certainly put me off CFMOTO, I'd rather get the X5 anyway, and at least it seems simple to fix, no black boxes...

[ZMC888]

Well you guys have certainly put me off CFMOTO, I'd rather get the X5 anyway, and at least it seems simple to fix, no black boxes...

Oddly I'd do it all again regardless. There is nothing like taking a 500cc plus bike up over 6000-8000 rpm. those smaller bikes just don't do it for me. There was no choice, Benelli, scared of that maybe more problems than what I have, if there was a real Honda CB500 Kawasaki ER6N with parts available, I might go for that option but I really can't afford over double the price. Of course in SH or BJ maybe you can get an import one but shipping it over here and getting it registered, would be a nightmare. Of course probably no parts too.

Actually these black boxes exceptionally easy to fix, just plug in the new black box, easier than changing a computer graphics card or RAM.

For me it's just a shame CFMOTO are ruining their home field advantage.

[prince666]

Well you guys have certainly put me off CFMOTO, I'd rather get the X5 anyway, and at least it seems simple to fix, no black boxes...

X5 Thats the bike which have the wheels fall apart did i not read on here ! had my TR now for 3 weeks done 4000km had the bike over 200KMH ride with BMW Honda and keep up with them ok apart from the water pump leak which i fix my self at 20 Rmb the bike runs sweet and i love it will it last !!!we need to see how Buck & Amy bike holds up after 30.000 KM in 12 weeks http://www.thegreatrideofchina.com/ Buck bike is over 17.000 km and still going strong would a X5 last that long in such a short time one way to find out Buy one !

[prince666]

Well you guys have certainly put me off CFMOTO, I'd rather get the X5 anyway, and at least it seems simple to fix, no black boxes...

Just had a update from Buck & Amy about the TR same engine as the NK .... after over 17.000 Km

Buck
October 7, 2013 at 6:10 am

Bikes been great so far! Only changed the tires once in Urumqi. Probably earlier than it needed it but I didn’t want to take any chances before heading into the remote areas of Xinjiang and Tibet. Very happy we did too especially for the sections around Everest!

Other than that, can’t say there have been any other serious problems that we’ve encountered. She’s still purring along beautifully. Been a real treat on the roads in Sichuan we’re currently going through (posts coming soon!)

Now how bad is that !!!!!!!

[ZMC888]

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Added a Renthal ultra-low bar in silver and ODI ruffian grips. The the cheap plastic control switches now lightly touch the plastic mini-faring side covers making the bike marginally more cumbersome when it is being moved around on full lock. Have already ordered 30mm risers. Made the front end very much have the feel of a mountain bike, being that I ride mountain bikes daily it's a setup that suits me perfectly. Another payoff is that by having a wider bar I can see much more out of my mirrors.

Notice the difference is subtle. The idea is that it can pass annual inspection without raising the suspicions of the Gong An. Why they would question a better quality bar than the original and heaven knows....TIC.

[bikerdoc]

I'm liking that bar. Looks like it has a nice wider angle than stock. Some bar risers will add to it... sounds as though it handles real nice with the extra width compared with OEM. What is the difference in the width between the Renthral's and OEM? Was there a specific reason you went for the ultra-low bars?

At least with the NK you've way more options to experiment and make changes to the bars, as the TR - not so much.

[ZMC888]

What is the difference in the width between the Renthal's and OEM?

OEM 680mm. Renthal Ultra low 725mm. 45mm, doesn't sound a lot but it does make a great deal of difference.

Was there a specific reason you went for the ultra-low bars?

I have tried bars with different rises including flat bars and high and low rises on mountain bikes and have discovered I prefer a lower rise bar. If the bar is too low, no problem increase the stack height/riser height. Too high and you're stuck with it.

[fletch7276]

Hey Guys,
I should probably jump in and give some updates as well. I've owned my NK for over a year now, and had nothing but a grin with the bike. not a single problem mechanically or electrically. My job has been so busy, I haven't been able to do as much tear down work as I was hoping. I did make a few cosmetic changes over the past couple of months. I bought levers, handlebars, frame sliders, and a carbon exhaust system. been happy with all of them.

My favorite mod is the exhaust - it came with an Akropovic logo, but i'm not holding my breath its real. However, fit and build quality were excellent. It also simplified the exhaust expansion box design on the stock NK. Now just a simple, single pipe design, with fantistic sound. much louder and deeper than stock.

Handlebars are similar to ZMC's renthals - both wider, and lower profile. I also have tight/little clearance with the gas tank, but the lower profile is much preferred. coming from sport bikes, I was never comfortable with the upright positioning of the bars.

I'll try to post more in the future, still enjoying the rides, and also experimenting with mods on the bike.
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